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Doctor TOC, 12 Monkeys Fixed Timeline
Doctor TOC, Woman on Plane
JKrapf007, Evil Dead 2 Not a Remake
Nathro, Evil Dead 2 a Sequel
JKrapf007, Travel Before Your Birth
Nathro, More About Evil Dead
Sauce96, Terminator and Star Trek
Sauce96, Presenting an Original Story
Sauce96, Defending Paradox
Muhammed, A Line from 12 Monkeys
Holger Thiemann, 12 Monkeys Fixed Time
Chad Hadsell, Local Infinity Loops
Chad Hadsell, Time an Abstraction
Holger Thiemann, Testing the Theory
Chad Hadsell, Travel to the Future
Chad Hadsell, Erasing Future Self
Holger Thiemann, Temporal Duplicates
Gecko, 12 Monkeys Analysis Incorrect
Jason Seiler, 12 Monkeys Static Time
Jason Seiler, Metaphysics Class Links
Etienne Rouette, Woman on Plane
Matthew Potts, Woman on Plane
Bart, Parallel Universe Theory
Bart, Clarification

Movies Analyzed
in order examined

Terminator
    Addendum to Terminator
    Terminator 3:  Rise of the Machines
    Terminator Recap
    Terminator Salvation
    Terminator Genisys
Back To The Future
Back To The Future II
Back To The Future III
Millennium
Star Trek Introduction
    Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home
    Star Trek: Generations
    Star Trek: First Contact
    Star Trek (2009)
12 Monkeys
    Addendum to 12 Monkeys
Flight Of The Navigator
  Flight Of The Navigator Addendum
Army of Darkness
Lost In Space
Peggy Sue Got Married
Bill & Ted's Excellent Adventure
Bill & Ted's Bogus Journey
Frequency
Planet of the Apes
Kate and Leopold
Somewhere In Time
The Time Machine
Minority Report
Happy Accidents
The Final Countdown
Donnie Darko
  S. Darko
Harry Potter and
    the Prisoner of Azkaban

Deja Vu
Primer
    Primer Questions
Bender's Big Score
Popular Christmas Movies
The Butterfly Effect
  The Butterfly Effect 2
  The Butterfly Effect 3:  Revelations
The Last Mimzy
The Lake House
The Time Traveler's Wife
The Hot Tub Time Machine
Premonition
Los Cronocrimines a.k.a. TimeCrimes
Timeline
A Sound of Thundrer
Next
Frequently Asked Questions
    About Time Travel

Source Code
Warlock
Blackadder Back & Forth
Watchmen
Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles III
11 Minutes Ago
Men in Black III
La Jetée
Triangle
Midnight in Paris
Meet the Robinsons
Looper
H. G. Wells' The Time Machine
The Jacket
Safety Not Guaranteed
The Philadelphia Experiment
  The Philadelphia Experiment II
Time After Time
TimeCop
About Time
Free Birds
X-Men:  Days of Future Past
Edge of Tomorrow
Mr. Peabody & Sherman
Predestination
Project Almanac
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Time Lapse

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The temporal anomaly terminology used here is drawn from Appendix 11:  Temporal Anomalies of Multiverser from Valdron Inc, and is illustrated on the home page of this web site.  This site is part of M. J. Young Net.

Books by the Author.

Temporal Anomalies in Time Travel Movies
unravels
A Letter from JKrapf007:
Evil Dead 2 Is Not a Remake

I was told by several who saw the Evil Dead series that the "first two" films were the same story, done first as a low budget college project and then remade professionally with the same star.  Justin Krapf says that information is incorrect.

The Letter

Subject:  Eek! Time Travel
Date:  Fri, 22 May 1998 17:52:58 EDT
From:  JKrapf007

Hello I read your Army of Darkness Time Travel Interpretation, I would like to clear up a couple things for you...

at the end of Evil Dead 2 Ash is transported back in time... but since they didn't want the movie to be 4 hours long they decided to make Ash 'destroy the evil' right then and there.

But several years later they made AOD and expanded on the idea... Ash saved everyone and returned the book to the castle.

(the castle is where the book was found by the professor, he says it in Evil Dead 2)

So Ash WAS the promised one, and he DID full-fill the prophecy(sp?)

Anything you don't understand or would like to talk about please e-mail me back.

-Justin Krapf

PS- My brother (Sauce96) is a time travel enthusiest, he has written many stories about it.  I think you and he would have some good conversasion.
Drop him a line sometime.

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The Reply

Justin--

  Thank you for your clarifications.  As I implied, I had a lot of trouble finding a copy of either The Evil Dead or The Evil Dead 2, and it seems that you were more attentive to them than those I was able to question.  However, you also misunderstood me.  Perhaps I was not sufficiently clear on a few points.  This is the twelfth time travel movie I've discussed on this web site, and there is a fine line between explaining things clearly in each page and repeating things ad nauseum for those who have read some of the other pages.  Perhaps I can clarify them for you.

  I'm not sure exactly what you mean when you say that Ash destroyed the evil at the end of Evil Dead 2.  I understand that to be a remake of The Evil Dead (which was not 4 hours long, either), and my sources say that the movies had the same ending--but they could have been mistaken.  However, your point that the book was found at the castle by the professor is an important one, and requires that it was moved from the graveyard to the castle in both time lines.

  So Ash was the promised one, and did fulfill the prophecy in the second time line.  This apparently you did not understand.  Permit me to clarify it.

  There have been many stories based on time travel.  When time travel is an essential part of the story (as opposed to being an incidental aspect), writers tend to create various temporal paradoxes.  They generally do this either as an honest attempt to wrestle with the complications of tampering with time, or as a complete blunder revealing their failure to fully consider the implications of what they have done.

  Some time back, I created and published (in the Multiverser game system) a new theoretical approach to unraveling such paradoxes.  Observing that one cannot enter a point in the past without altering history in some way (it is anthropocentric arrogance to suggest otherwise--your mere mass changes the gravitic forces of the universe), I maintain that once you enter the past, you end the future at the moment you left it, and create a second timeline in which history is altered.  Using these films to illustrate, there was an original time line which led from that castle in the past through the birth of Ash up to the moment he is sucked back in time.  It has a history.  Ash cannot have been at that castle in that history, because he must be born in his own point in time before he can go back in time--that is, Ash's life must begin with his birth at a specific point in time and space which must have arrived through its own chain of events before he can travel back into history and alter it.  His appearance near the battlefield where the events of Army of Darkness occur therefore changes the history which led to his own birth.  The way this is handled under my theory is not that difficult:  the original timeline ends at the moment the traveler leaves it, all of time reverts to the moment to which he returns, and history continues forward to the point at which the traveler originally left--the second timeline paralleling (or more precisely diverging from) the first--and then a determination is made as to whether history can continue beyond this point.  If you look at some of the other movie discussions, this will be clarified by multiple examples.

  Thus, although Ash was the promised one in the history which remains, he could not have fulfilled the prophecy in the history which existed when he was born in the first time line.  Thus what my page attempts to do is recreate what the history might or must have been in that first time line--the one in which Ash could not have been, because he had not yet been born.

  I realize that this is not the way most writers view time.  However, after much consideration I have not found another approach to time which preserves the free action of men in the present and makes possible all of the things they could do were they able to move backward through time.

  I hope this clarifies what I was saying.  I'd be glad to answer any other questions.

  As to the spelling problem you had, "prophecy" (with a "c") is the noun form, that which is predicted, and has an "ee" sound at the end.  "Prophesy" (with an "s") is the verb, referring to the act of making the prediction, and ends with the long "i" sound.  And prophecies are "fulfilled".

  Thanks again for your interest and your input.

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